процитую ще раз інтерв'ю Ердогана
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (through translator):
Since 2014, we have been talking to my dear friend Putin about this,
Judy Woodruff:
Does President Putin recognize that he miscalculated, that he greatly underestimated the will of the Ukrainian people to stand up for their own country?
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (through translator):
No leader in the aftermath would say that it was a mistake. Nobody will say, yes, I made a mistake.
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (through translator):
If an investigation leads to that conclusion, Putin will show his reaction. It's not right to observe Putin as an entirely different person because he is prioritizing the interests of his country and he's fighting for his interests, for his country's interests.
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (through translator):
Judy, we have to see this for what it is. Not only the Ukrainians are dying, but there are so many casualties on the Russian side as well.
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (through translator):
Here especially, Sweden has been a cradle for terrorism. And the terrorists have infiltrated all the way into their parliaments.
And, in Stockholm, we see terrorists are demonstrating all the time. The banners, the poster of the leader of the terrorist organizations are abound. They are demonstrating. They're throwing slogans. And they're attacking the innocent Turkish descendants in Stockholm. And we have given all the evidence relevant to these developments to our Swedish interlocutors.
Judy Woodruff:
You will be facing the voters of your country next year for reelection. Do you believe you will win? Or could Turkey go in another direction?
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (through translator):
We have no concerns about winning the elections. Nobody will replace us, because there is no alternative.
www.pbs.org/newshour/show/turkey-president-erdogan-on-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-and-the-future-of-nato